When you redirect a VLAN device to any device, you end up with
crap in af_packet on the xmit path because hard_header_len is
not equal to skb->mac_len. So the redirected packet contains
four extra bytes at the start which then gets interpreted as
part of the MAC address.
This patch fixes this by only pushing skb->mac_len. We also
need to fix ifb because it tries to undo the pushing done by
act_mirred.
Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Acked-by: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Testing xmit_more support with netperf and connected UDP sockets,
I found strange dst refcount false sharing.
Current handling of IFF_XMIT_DST_RELEASE is not optimal.
Dropping dst in validate_xmit_skb() is certainly too late in case
packet was queued by cpu X but dequeued by cpu Y
The logical point to take care of drop/force is in __dev_queue_xmit()
before even taking qdisc lock.
As Julian Anastasov pointed out, need for skb_dst() might come from some
packet schedulers or classifiers.
This patch adds new helper to cleanly express needs of various drivers
or qdiscs/classifiers.
Drivers that need skb_dst() in their ndo_start_xmit() should call
following helper in their setup instead of the prior :
dev->priv_flags &= ~IFF_XMIT_DST_RELEASE;
->
netif_keep_dst(dev);
Instead of using a single bit, we use two bits, one being
eventually rebuilt in bonding/team drivers.
The other one, is permanent and blocks IFF_XMIT_DST_RELEASE being
rebuilt in bonding/team. Eventually, we could add something
smarter later.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Conflicts:
drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/mvneta.c
The mvneta.c conflict is a case of overlapping changes,
a conversion to devm_ioremap_resource() vs. a conversion
to netdev_alloc_pcpu_stats.
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Do not include vlan acceleration features in vlan_features as that
precludes correct Q-in-Q operation.
Signed-off-by: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Replace the bh safe variant with the hard irq safe variant.
We need a hard irq safe variant to deal with netpoll transmitting
packets from hard irq context, and we need it in most if not all of
the places using the bh safe variant.
Except on 32bit uni-processor the code is exactly the same so don't
bother with a bh variant, just have a hard irq safe variant that
everyone can use.
Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
In order to enable lockdep on seqcount/seqlock structures, we
must explicitly initialize any locks.
The u64_stats_sync structure, uses a seqcount, and thus we need
to introduce a u64_stats_init() function and use it to initialize
the structure.
This unfortunately adds a lot of fairly trivial initialization code
to a number of drivers. But the benefit of ensuring correctness makes
this worth while.
Because these changes are required for lockdep to be enabled, and the
changes are quite trivial, I've not yet split this patch out into 30-some
separate patches, as I figured it would be better to get the various
maintainers thoughts on how to best merge this change along with
the seqcount lockdep enablement.
Feedback would be appreciated!
Signed-off-by: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Acked-by: Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg>
Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: Jesse Gross <jesse@nicira.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Mirko Lindner <mlindner@marvell.com>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
Cc: Wensong Zhang <wensong@linux-vs.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1381186321-4906-2-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org
Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
If __rtnl_link_register() return faild when loading the ifb, it will
take the wrong path and get oops, so fix it just like dummy.
Signed-off-by: Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
According to the commit 16b0dc29c1
(dummy: fix rcu_sched self-detected stalls)
Eric Dumazet fix the problem in dummy, but the ifb will occur the
same problem like the dummy modules.
Trying to "modprobe ifb numifbs=30000" triggers :
INFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU
After this splat, RTNL is locked and reboot is needed.
We must call cond_resched() to avoid this, even holding RTNL.
Signed-off-by: Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
- macvlan: propagate STAG filtering capabilities from underlying device
- ifb: announce STAG tagging support in addition to CTAG tagging support
- veth: announce STAG tagging/stripping support in addition to CTAG support
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Rename the hardware VLAN acceleration features to include "CTAG" to indicate
that they only support CTAGs. Follow up patches will introduce 802.1ad
server provider tagging (STAGs) and require the distinction for hardware not
supporting acclerating both.
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
ifb should lookup devices in the appropriate namespace.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Acked-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Replace usage of random_ether_addr() with eth_hw_addr_random()
to set addr_assign_type correctly to NET_ADDR_RANDOM.
Change the trivial cases.
v2: adapt to renamed eth_hw_addr_random()
Signed-off-by: Danny Kukawka <danny.kukawka@bisect.de>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Only distinct use is checking if NETIF_F_NOCACHE_COPY should be
enabled by default. The check heuristics is altered a bit here,
so it hits other people than before. The default shouldn't be
trusted for performance-critical cases anyway.
For all other uses NETIF_F_NO_CSUM is equivalent to NETIF_F_HW_CSUM.
Signed-off-by: Michał Mirosław <mirq-linux@rere.qmqm.pl>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
After the last patch, We are left in a state in which only drivers calling
ether_setup have IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING set (we assume that drivers touching real
hardware call ether_setup for their net_devices and don't hold any state in
their skbs. There are a handful of drivers that violate this assumption of
course, and need to be fixed up. This patch identifies those drivers, and marks
them as not being able to support the safe transmission of skbs by clearning the
IFF_TX_SKB_SHARING flag in priv_flags
Signed-off-by: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
CC: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
CC: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
CC: Jay Vosburgh <fubar@us.ibm.com>
CC: Andy Gospodarek <andy@greyhouse.net>
CC: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
CC: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
CC: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
CC: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
CC: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
CC: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Convert input functional block device to use 64 bit stats.
Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Acked-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
* remove interrupt.g inclusion from netdevice.h -- not needed
* fixup fallout, add interrupt.h and hardirq.h back where needed.
Signed-off-by: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Force dev_alloc_name() to be called from register_netdevice() by
dev_get_valid_name(). That allows to remove multiple explicit
dev_alloc_name() calls.
The possibility to call dev_alloc_name in advance remains.
This also fixes veth creation regresion caused by
84c49d8c3e
Signed-off-by: Jiri Pirko <jpirko@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Le lundi 03 janvier 2011 à 11:40 -0800, David Miller a écrit :
> From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:37:03 +0100
>
> > On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 09:24:36PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> >> Le mercredi 29 décembre 2010 ?? 00:07 +0100, Jarek Poplawski a écrit :
> >>
> >> > Ingress is before vlans handler so these features and the
> >> > NETIF_F_HW_VLAN_TX flag seem useful for ifb considering
> >> > dev_hard_start_xmit() checks.
> >>
> >> OK, here is v2 of the patch then, thanks everybody.
> >>
> >>
> >> [PATCH v2 net-next-2.6] ifb: add performance flags
> >>
> >> IFB can use the full set of features flags (NETIF_F_SG |
> >> NETIF_F_FRAGLIST | NETIF_F_TSO | NETIF_F_NO_CSUM | NETIF_F_HIGHDMA) to
> >> avoid unnecessary split of some packets (GRO for example)
> >>
> >> Changli suggested to also set vlan_features,
> >
> > He also suggested more GSO flags of which especially NETIF_F_TSO6
> > seems interesting (wrt GRO)?
>
> I think at least TSO6 would very much be appropriate here.
Yes, why not, I am only wondering why loopback / dummy (and others ?)
only set NETIF_F_TSO :)
Since I want to play with ECN, I might also add NETIF_F_TSO_ECN ;)
For other flags, I really doubt it can matter on ifb ?
[PATCH v3 net-next-2.6] ifb: add performance flags
IFB can use the full set of features flags (NETIF_F_SG |
NETIF_F_FRAGLIST | NETIF_F_TSO | NETIF_F_NO_CSUM | NETIF_F_HIGHDMA) to
avoid unnecessary split of some packets (GRO for example)
Changli suggested to also set vlan_features, NETIF_F_TSO6,
NETIF_F_TSO_ECN.
Jarek suggested to add NETIF_F_HW_VLAN_TX as well.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Cc: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
Cc: Pawel Staszewski <pstaszewski@itcare.pl>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
In ri_tasklet(), we run from softirq, so can directly handle packet
through netif_receive_skb() instead of netif_rx().
There is no risk of recursion.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Acked-by: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
After recent ifb changes, we must use lockless __skb_dequeue() since
lock is not anymore initialized.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Cc: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Acked-by: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
rq and tq are both protected by tx queue lock, so we can simply use
the lockless variants of skb_queue.
skb_queue_splice_tail_init() is used instead of the open coded and slow
one.
Signed-off-by: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
These debug stats are not exported, and become useless.
Signed-off-by: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
If we break the loop when there are still skbs in tq and no skb in
rq, the skbs will be left in txq until new skbs are enqueued into rq.
In rare cases, no new skb is queued, then these skbs will stay in rq
forever.
After this patch, if tq isn't empty when we break the loop, we goto
resched directly.
Signed-off-by: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Now that core network takes care of trans_start updates, dont do it
in drivers themselves, if possible. Drivers can avoid one cache miss
(on dev->trans_start) in their start_xmit() handler.
Exceptions are NETIF_F_LLTX drivers
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
At this point (ri_tasklet()), RTNL or dev_base_lock are not held,
we must use dev_get_by_index() instead of __dev_get_by_index()
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
These are all drivers that don't touch real hardware.
Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This patch converts the remaining occurences of raw return values to their
symbolic counterparts in ndo_start_xmit() functions that were missed by the
previous automatic conversion.
Additionally code that assumed the symbolic value of NETDEV_TX_OK to be zero
is changed to explicitly use NETDEV_TX_OK.
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
One point of contention in high network loads is the dst_release() performed
when a transmited skb is freed. This is because NIC tx completion calls
dev_kree_skb() long after original call to dev_queue_xmit(skb).
CPU cache is cold and the atomic op in dst_release() stalls. On SMP, this is
quite visible if one CPU is 100% handling softirqs for a network device,
since dst_clone() is done by other cpus, involving cache line ping pongs.
It seems right place to release dst is in dev_hard_start_xmit(), for most
devices but ones that are virtual, and some exceptions.
David Miller suggested to define a new device flag, set in alloc_netdev_mq()
(so that most devices set it at init time), and carefuly unset in devices
which dont want a NULL skb->dst in their ndo_start_xmit().
List of devices that must clear this flag is :
- loopback device, because it calls netif_rx() and quoting Patrick :
"ip_route_input() doesn't accept loopback addresses, so loopback packets
already need to have a dst_entry attached."
- appletalk/ipddp.c : needs skb->dst in its xmit function
- And all devices that call again dev_queue_xmit() from their xmit function
(as some classifiers need skb->dst) : bonding, vlan, macvlan, eql, ifb, hdlc_fr
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This patch moves neigh_setup and hard_start_xmit into the network device ops
structure. For bisection, fix all the previously converted drivers as well.
Bonding driver took the biggest hit on this.
Added a prefetch of the hard_start_xmit in the fast path to try and reduce
any impact this would have.
Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Convert to new network device ops interface.
Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
When support for multiple TX queues were added, the
netif_tx_lock() routines we converted to iterate over
all TX queues and grab each queue's spinlock.
This causes heartburn for lockdep and it's not a healthy
thing to do with lots of TX queues anyways.
So modify this to use a top-level lock and a "frozen"
state for the individual TX queues.
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
alloc_netdev_mq() now allocates an array of netdev_queue
structures for TX, based upon the queue_count argument.
Furthermore, all accesses to the TX queues are now vectored
through the netdev_get_tx_queue() and netdev_for_each_tx_queue()
interfaces. This makes it easy to grep the tree for all
things that want to get to a TX queue of a net device.
Problem spots which are not really multiqueue aware yet, and
only work with one queue, can easily be spotted by grepping
for all netdev_get_tx_queue() calls that pass in a zero index.
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Every qdisc is assosciated with a queue, and in the case of ingress
qdiscs that will now be netdev->rx_queue so using that queue's lock is
the thing to do.
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
The lock is now an attribute of the device queue.
One thing to notice is that "suspicious" places
emerge which will need specific training about
multiple queue handling. They are so marked with
explicit "netdev->rx_queue" and "netdev->tx_queue"
references.
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
[ 10.536424] =======================================================
[ 10.536424] [ INFO: possible circular locking dependency detected ]
[ 10.536424] 2.6.25-rc3-devel #3
[ 10.536424] -------------------------------------------------------
[ 10.536424] swapper/0 is trying to acquire lock:
[ 10.536424] (&dev->queue_lock){-+..}, at: [<c0299b4a>]
dev_queue_xmit+0x175/0x2f3
[ 10.536424]
[ 10.536424] but task is already holding lock:
[ 10.536424] (&p->tcfc_lock){-+..}, at: [<f8a67154>] tcf_mirred+0x20/0x178
[act_mirred]
[ 10.536424]
[ 10.536424] which lock already depends on the new lock.
lockdep warns of locking order while using ifb with sch_ingress and
act_mirred: ingress_lock, tcfc_lock, queue_lock (usually queue_lock
is at the beginning). This patch is only to tell lockdep that ifb is
a different device (e.g. from eth) and has its own pair of queue
locks. (This warning is a false-positive in common scenario of using
ifb; yet there are possible situations, when this order could be
dangerous; lockdep should warn in such a case.) (With suggestions by
David S. Miller)
Reported-and-tested-by: Denys Fedoryshchenko <denys@visp.net.lb>
Signed-off-by: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
Acked-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
We now have struct net_device_stats embedded in struct net_device,
and the default ->get_stats() hook does the obvious thing for us.
Run through drivers/net/* and remove the driver-local storage of
statistics, and driver-local ->get_stats() hook where applicable.
This was just the low-hanging fruit in drivers/net; plenty more drivers
remain to be updated.
[ Resolved conflicts with napi_struct changes and fix sunqe build
regression... -DaveM ]
Signed-off-by: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
It's been a useless no-op for long enough in 2.6 so I figured it's time to
remove it. The number of people that could object because they're
maintaining unified 2.4 and 2.6 drivers is probably rather small.
[ Handled drivers added by netdev tree and some missed IRDA cases... -DaveM ]
Signed-off-by: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
Signed-off-by: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This patch makes most of the generic device layer network
namespace safe. This patch makes dev_base_head a
network namespace variable, and then it picks up
a few associated variables. The functions:
dev_getbyhwaddr
dev_getfirsthwbytype
dev_get_by_flags
dev_get_by_name
__dev_get_by_name
dev_get_by_index
__dev_get_by_index
dev_ioctl
dev_ethtool
dev_load
wireless_process_ioctl
were modified to take a network namespace argument, and
deal with it.
vlan_ioctl_set and brioctl_set were modified so their
hooks will receive a network namespace argument.
So basically anthing in the core of the network stack that was
affected to by the change of dev_base was modified to handle
multiple network namespaces. The rest of the network stack was
simply modified to explicitly use &init_net the initial network
namespace. This can be fixed when those components of the network
stack are modified to handle multiple network namespaces.
For now the ifindex generator is left global.
Fundametally ifindex numbers are per namespace, or else
we will have corner case problems with migration when
we get that far.
At the same time there are assumptions in the network stack
that the ifindex of a network device won't change. Making
the ifindex number global seems a good compromise until
the network stack can cope with ifindex changes when
you change namespaces, and the like.
Signed-off-by: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Drivers need to validate the initial addresses in their netlink attribute
validation function or manually reject them if they can't support this.
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
All drivers need to unregister their devices in the module unload function.
While doing so they must hold the rtnl and atomically unregister the
rtnl_link ops as well. This makes the rtnl_link_unregister function that
takes the rtnl itself completely useless.
Provide default newlink/dellink functions, make __rtnl_link_unregister and
rtnl_link_unregister unregister all devices with matching rtnl_link_ops and
change the existing users to take advantage of that.
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Use a list instead of an array to allow creating new devices.
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
The input_device pointer is not refcounted, which means the device may
disappear while packets are queued, causing a crash when ifb passes packets
with a stale skb->dev pointer to netif_rx().
Fix by storing the interface index instead and do a lookup where neccessary.
Signed-off-by: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Acked-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This reverts commit 0c0b3ae68e.
Quoth David:
"Jeff, please revert
It's wrong. We had a lengthy analysis of this piece of code
several months ago, and it is correct.
Consider, if we run the loop and we get an error
the following happens:
1) attempt of ifb_init_one(i) fails, therefore we should
not try to "ifb_free_one()" on "i" since it failed
2) the loop iteration first increments "i", then it
check for error
Therefore we must decrement "i" twice before the first
free during the cleanup. One to "undo" the for() loop
increment, and one to "skip" the ifb_init_one() case which
failed."
Reported-by: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Acked-by: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
On error we should start freeing resources at [i-1] not [i-2].
Signed-off-by: Mariusz Kozlowski <m.kozlowski@tuxland.pl>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Herbert Xu
Eric Dumazet
Tom Gundersen
David S. Miller
Vlad Yasevich
Eric W. Biederman
John Stultz
dingtianhong
Patrick McHardy
Danny Kukawka
Michał Mirosław
Neil Horman
stephen hemminger
Alexey Dobriyan
Jiri Pirko
Eric Dumazet
Changli Gao
Eric Dumazet
Jarek Poplawski
Jeff Garzik
Ralf Baechle
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