diff --git a/Documentation/git-mv.txt b/Documentation/git-mv.txt
index b1f79881ef..e4531325cd 100644
--- a/Documentation/git-mv.txt
+++ b/Documentation/git-mv.txt
@@ -52,6 +52,18 @@ core.worktree setting to make the submodule work in the new location.
 It also will attempt to update the submodule.<name>.path setting in
 the linkgit:gitmodules[5] file and stage that file (unless -n is used).
 
+BUGS
+----
+Each time a superproject update moves a populated submodule (e.g. when
+switching between commits before and after the move) a stale submodule
+checkout will remain in the old location and an empty directory will
+appear in the new location. To populate the submodule again in the new
+location the user will have to run "git submodule update"
+afterwards. Removing the old directory is only safe when it uses a
+gitfile, as otherwise the history of the submodule will be deleted
+too. Both steps will be obsolete when recursive submodule update has
+been implemented.
+
 GIT
 ---
 Part of the linkgit:git[1] suite
diff --git a/Documentation/git-rm.txt b/Documentation/git-rm.txt
index 9d731b453d..f1efc116eb 100644
--- a/Documentation/git-rm.txt
+++ b/Documentation/git-rm.txt
@@ -170,6 +170,15 @@ of files and subdirectories under the `Documentation/` directory.
 	(i.e. you are listing the files explicitly), it
 	does not remove `subdir/git-foo.sh`.
 
+BUGS
+----
+Each time a superproject update removes a populated submodule
+(e.g. when switching between commits before and after the removal) a
+stale submodule checkout will remain in the old location. Removing the
+old directory is only safe when it uses a gitfile, as otherwise the
+history of the submodule will be deleted too. This step will be
+obsolete when recursive submodule update has been implemented.
+
 SEE ALSO
 --------
 linkgit:git-add[1]
diff --git a/t/t3600-rm.sh b/t/t3600-rm.sh
index 540c49bab6..3d305814b9 100755
--- a/t/t3600-rm.sh
+++ b/t/t3600-rm.sh
@@ -705,6 +705,22 @@ test_expect_success 'rm of a populated nested submodule with a nested .git direc
 	rm -rf submod
 '
 
+test_expect_success 'checking out a commit after submodule removal needs manual updates' '
+	git commit -m "submodule removal" submod &&
+	git checkout HEAD^ &&
+	git submodule update &&
+	git checkout -q HEAD^ 2>actual &&
+	git checkout -q master 2>actual &&
+	echo "warning: unable to rmdir submod: Directory not empty" >expected &&
+	test_i18ncmp expected actual &&
+	git status -s submod >actual &&
+	echo "?? submod/" >expected &&
+	test_cmp expected actual &&
+	rm -rf submod &&
+	git status -s -uno --ignore-submodules=none > actual &&
+	! test -s actual
+'
+
 test_expect_success 'rm of d/f when d has become a non-directory' '
 	rm -rf d &&
 	mkdir d &&
diff --git a/t/t7001-mv.sh b/t/t7001-mv.sh
index 3bfdfed1f7..e3c8c2c1b8 100755
--- a/t/t7001-mv.sh
+++ b/t/t7001-mv.sh
@@ -442,4 +442,25 @@ test_expect_success 'mv --dry-run does not touch the submodule or .gitmodules' '
 	git diff-files --quiet -- sub .gitmodules
 '
 
+test_expect_success 'checking out a commit before submodule moved needs manual updates' '
+	git mv sub sub2 &&
+	git commit -m "moved sub to sub2" &&
+	git checkout -q HEAD^ 2>actual &&
+	echo "warning: unable to rmdir sub2: Directory not empty" >expected &&
+	test_i18ncmp expected actual &&
+	git status -s sub2 >actual &&
+	echo "?? sub2/" >expected &&
+	test_cmp expected actual &&
+	! test -f sub/.git &&
+	test -f sub2/.git &&
+	git submodule update &&
+	test -f sub/.git &&
+	rm -rf sub2 &&
+	git diff-index --exit-code HEAD &&
+	git update-index --refresh &&
+	git diff-files --quiet -- sub .gitmodules &&
+	git status -s sub2 >actual &&
+	! test -s actual
+'
+
 test_done