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<H1>[Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# on Mac Field Report</H1>
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<B>Chuck Esterbrook</B>
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TITLE="[Gtk-sharp-list] GTK# on Mac Field Report">chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com
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<I>Thu Dec 10 17:08:33 EST 2009</I>
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<PRE>On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
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<<A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/gtk-sharp-list">awilliam at whitemice.org</A>> wrote:
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><i> On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 23:33 -0800, Chuck Esterbrook wrote:
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</I>>><i> I removed my Mono 2.6p1 install and installed Mono 2.4 which was
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</I>>><i> released more recently and boasts numerous bugfixes. I'm on Mac OS X
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</I>>><i> Snow Leopard.
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</I>>><i> If I take my .exe over to Linux, these problems disappear.
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</I>><i> [must resist......]
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Thank you for resisting. :-)
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>><i> I originally thought GTK# would be well cared for because major apps
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</I>>><i> use it, like MonoDevelop for Mac. But now I'm thinking that the
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</I>>><i> wizards behind such apps are using a "custom GTK#" they tweaked to
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</I>>><i> work for them while the main GTK# distribution, um, ... rots? Sorry
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</I>>><i> for the strong word, but I don't see any GTK# love in these release
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</I>>><i> notes...
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</I>><i> Please don't appeal to conspiracy when there is no evidence of such.  I
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</I>><i> think the explanation is simple: Gtk/Gtk# developers don't use Macs.
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I didn't appeal to conspiracy; you just read it that way. I appealed
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to *process*. I see MonoDevelop and gedit working great on Mac (which
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btw falsies the statement "Gtk/Gtk# developers don't use Macs.") while
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simultaneously Mono GTK# apps cannot handle basic operations like
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resizing, clicking and scrolling. So I speculate there is something
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missing in the Mono development and/or release process.
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><i> I'm not a 'core' Gtk# developers, but I use Monodevelop hours every day
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</I>><i> - but I also don't own, use, or test on a Mac [over priced proprietary
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</I>><i> hardware & OS].
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Aww, I thought you were resisting...
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The hardware is not proprietary. You can install Linux, BSD and
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Windows on a Mac.
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><i> If developers don't use Macs,
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Where did you get that idea? The developers behind MonoDevelop and
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gedit for Mac obviously do.
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><i> and Mac users don't report bugs, then....
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And I just opened a discussion on bugs in this thread!
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-Chuck
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