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<H1>[Mono-list] Re: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the
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<B>Miguel de Icaza
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TITLE="[Mono-list] Re: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the
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<I>11 Oct 2003 19:58:27 -0400</I>
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<PRE>><i> > But being selective about what you consider to be
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</I>><i> > thin-wrapper, and what you don't is just an exercise in deception.
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</I>><i> That's out of line and you should apologise. It was based on a careful
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</I>><i> analysis of the API's and other similar API's in the past (MFC of 10 years
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</I>><i> ago does everything that you listed as "massive departures").
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</I>><i> In any case, it has already been made clear in this thread that we are hedging
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</I>><i> our bets: we'll switch to Qt# or Gtk# in a heartbeat should Microsoft
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</I>><i> disagree with our analysis. What? We can't have it both ways?
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Nobody said that. All I am saying is that Norbert's position on
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`everything is tainted except ECMA and Windows.Forms' is wrong. Either
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everything above ECMA might be tainted or none of it is. Thats what you
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cant have both ways.
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If you did such a careful study with your lawyer, would you mind
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publishing it so others can review it? I assume you also did a careful
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study of every other API not included in ECMA, because it seems they are
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tained. I would also like to see that one, it will be useful material
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to have.
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Can you and your lawyer produce these documents?
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><i> If you have no interest in co-operating with us in a productive and
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</I>><i> non-hostile fashion, why don't you just say so? Attacking our judgement is
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</I>><i> hardly conducive to a productive working relationship.
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I disagree with your conclusion, you pointed out a careful study, I want
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to see the careful study to convince myself. You are bringing a serious
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issue to the table to discuss, and I want nothing less than seriousness
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in this discussion. And a visual-inspection-and-this-is-my-hunch is not
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a solid foundation to start from.
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And I suspect that you guys have not done the study, and this is all
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hunch-based.
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><i> I suspect that the real problem here is that you desperately don't want
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</I>><i> Windows.Forms to succeed (either Mono's or pnet's). Because who in the world
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</I>><i> would use Gtk# if Windows.Forms applications worked everywhere?
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Troll -1.
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Miguel
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