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<H1>[Mono-list] Re: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the
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<B>Rhys Weatherley
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<I>Sun, 12 Oct 2003 12:37:58 +1000</I>
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<PRE>On Sunday 12 October 2003 12:11 pm, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
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><i> > And I suppose you would just turn over internal Ximian/Novell legal
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</I>><i> > advice and developer discussions should I ask for it? Nice try to avoid
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</I>><i> > the apology.
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</I>><i> Rhys, I am not the one making claims that `Windows.Forms has no patent
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</I>><i> violations', you are the one who claimed that you had done a careful
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</I>><i> study.
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The result of which I provided in my last message. What I didn't provide was
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the days and days of looking through the API convincing ourselves that it was
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just MFC in a different sheep's clothing. Sorry, but I don't have a time
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machine to go back in time and video myself looking at documentation.
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><i> What I said is reflected on our FAQ: we dont believe that *any* of it is
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</I>><i> patentable.
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And I agree. Norbert wants us to be more cautious in areas for which there is
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no clear existing API's that we can point at and say "it's just a change in
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material". If it was up to me, I would say "who cares about patents".
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We've hedged our bets on the GUI toolkits. Now it is time to hedge our bets
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on other parts of the system. There is nothing deceptive about that. It is
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prudent policy in the current legal environment.
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><i> For us to cooperate in this delicate matter, I must trust you, and so
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</I>><i> far you are not giving me any sense of security.
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If you won't accept us at our word, then we've already lost the trust.
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You can consider the offer of collaboration withdrawn. Call us when you have
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something to offer other than a replay of the last hundred flame wars. We're
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willing to let bygones be bygones. When are you going to do that?
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Cheers,
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Rhys.
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