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<B>Martin Willemoes Hansen
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<I>Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:56:24 +0200</I>
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On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 00:44, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
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Miguel could you put this information in a history document available
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from <A HREF="http://www.go-mono.com">http://www.go-mono.com</A> or in the Monkey Guide.
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If your too busy, then tell me where I should put and I will be glade to
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do it.
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><i> Hello,
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> > who is Saurik? Jay Freeman? Is he a Ximian Worker?
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</I>><i> Yes, Jay Freeman. No, he was not a Ximian developer.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> > > About this time Sam Ruby was pushing at the ECMA committee to get the
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</I>><i> > > binary file format published, something that was not part of the
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</I>><i> > > original agenda. I do not know how things developed, but by April 2001
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</I>><i> > > ECMA had published the file format.
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</I>><i> >
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</I>><i> > Is Sam Ruby a ECMA committee worker?
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> Sam was the IBM representative to the ECMA 334/335 working groups.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> > > The Labsl team effort's eventually resulted in work in Bonobo-conf,
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</I>><i> > > ORBit2, bonobo-activation, Soup, and the Perl/Gtk bindings. The
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</I>><i> > > intention was to build tools to improve our productivity: create more
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</I>><i> > > applications in less time, bring more abstractions and standards to the
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</I>><i> > > desktop and reduce our time and cost of development.
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</I>><i> >
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</I>><i> >
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</I>><i> > The Labs1 team? A group of Ximian programmers?
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> Ximian Labs was a research and development team inside Ximian that
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</I>><i> developed infrastructural components for Gnome and the rest of Ximian to
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</I>><i> consume.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> The product teams were the desktop, red carpet and evolution. We
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</I>><i> provided foundation tools to them.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> > > We remained quiet, as we moved the teams over from their existing
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</I>><i> > > projects to the Mono effort, they were winding down on their existing
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</I>><i> > > projects, and only a couple remained behind: Alex Graveley (building
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</I>><i> > > Soup) and Michael Meeks (working on Bonobo and ORBit). The rest,
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</I>><i> > > Dietmar, Paolo, Dick and myself started work on Mono.
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</I>><i> >
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</I>><i> > All these people were part of the Labs1 team?
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> Ximian Labs. Yes.
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</I>><i> > > Ravi will join us later to assist in the C# compiler development.
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</I>><i> >
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</I>><i> > A new Ximian worker, isn't it?
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> He was a developer that joined us, because he had worked earlier in
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</I>><i> another compiler with Michael Meeks. Ravi left Ximian to pursue a
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</I>><i> degree in St Louis, but still remains involved as a contributor (and
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</I>><i> helps us fix bugs when he can).
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> After Ravi left, Gonzalo joined the team to focus on ASP.NET. Lluis
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</I>><i> joined almost a year later, specifically to work on our web services
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</I>><i> infrastructure and remoting.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> > I'm sorry for my ignorance and my curiosity, but I think that it's an
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</I>><i> > important and interesting story and I would like to know the details.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> I also happen to like the history of software a lot. In fact, I find
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</I>><i> the historic and human side of software more interesting than the
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</I>><i> software itself.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> Miguel
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</I>><i> _______________________________________________
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</I>><i> Mono-list maillist - <A HREF="mailto:Mono-list@lists.ximian.com">Mono-list@lists.ximian.com</A>
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</I>><i> <A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list">http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list</A>
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Martin Willemoes Hansen
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On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 00:44, Miguel de Icaza wrote:<BR>
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Miguel could you put this information in a history document available from <A HREF="<A HREF="http://www.go-mono.com"">http://www.go-mono.com"</A>><A HREF="http://www.go-mono.com</A">http://www.go-mono.com</A</A>> or in the Monkey Guide.<BR>
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>Hello,
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&gt;<i> who is Saurik? Jay Freeman? Is he a Ximian Worker?
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</I>
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Yes, Jay Freeman. No, he was not a Ximian developer.
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&gt;<i> &gt; About this time Sam Ruby was pushing at the ECMA committee to get the
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; binary file format published, something that was not part of the
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; original agenda. I do not know how things developed, but by April 2001
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ECMA had published the file format.
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</I>&gt;<i>
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</I>&gt;<i> Is Sam Ruby a ECMA committee worker?
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</I>
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Sam was the IBM representative to the ECMA 334/335 working groups.
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&gt;<i> &gt; The Labsl team effort's eventually resulted in work in Bonobo-conf,
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ORBit2, bonobo-activation, Soup, and the Perl/Gtk bindings. The
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; intention was to build tools to improve our productivity: create more
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; applications in less time, bring more abstractions and standards to the
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; desktop and reduce our time and cost of development.
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</I>&gt;<i>
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</I>&gt;<i>
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</I>&gt;<i> The Labs1 team? A group of Ximian programmers?
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</I>
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Ximian Labs was a research and development team inside Ximian that
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developed infrastructural components for Gnome and the rest of Ximian to
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consume.
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The product teams were the desktop, red carpet and evolution. We
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provided foundation tools to them.
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&gt;<i> &gt; We remained quiet, as we moved the teams over from their existing
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; projects to the Mono effort, they were winding down on their existing
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; projects, and only a couple remained behind: Alex Graveley (building
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Soup) and Michael Meeks (working on Bonobo and ORBit). The rest,
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</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Dietmar, Paolo, Dick and myself started work on Mono.
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</I>&gt;<i>
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</I>&gt;<i> All these people were part of the Labs1 team?
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</I>
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Ximian Labs. Yes.
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&gt;<i> &gt; Ravi will join us later to assist in the C# compiler development.
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</I>&gt;<i>
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</I>&gt;<i> A new Ximian worker, isn't it?
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</I>
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He was a developer that joined us, because he had worked earlier in
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another compiler with Michael Meeks. Ravi left Ximian to pursue a
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degree in St Louis, but still remains involved as a contributor (and
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helps us fix bugs when he can).
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After Ravi left, Gonzalo joined the team to focus on ASP.NET. Lluis
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joined almost a year later, specifically to work on our web services
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infrastructure and remoting.
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&gt;<i> I'm sorry for my ignorance and my curiosity, but I think that it's an
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</I>&gt;<i> important and interesting story and I would like to know the details.
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</I>
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I also happen to like the history of software a lot. In fact, I find
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the historic and human side of software more interesting than the
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software itself.
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Miguel
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_______________________________________________
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Mono-list maillist - <A HREF="mailto:Mono-list@lists.ximian.com">Mono-list@lists.ximian.com</A></FONT>
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