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<H1>[Mono-osx] Delphi Prism and all those Cocoa bridges</H1>
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<B>Andrew Brehm</B>
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TITLE="[Mono-osx] Delphi Prism and all those Cocoa bridges">ajbrehm at gmail.com
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<I>Tue Feb 24 14:34:20 EST 2009</I>
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I hope the quoting isn't messed up. I find it weird that a Web interface to a
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mailing list archive would use a different quoting scheme than mail
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programs!
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marc hoffman-4 wrote:
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</I>><i> Andrew,
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</I>><i>
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</I>>><i> I find Delphi more convincing every time I read about it! Ever since
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</I>>><i> the .NET Rocks podcast episode about Prism I was sort of hooked.
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</I>><i> glad to hear that. i believe we have a lot of cool stuff in Prism that
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</I>><i> sets it apart from C# - not just it's support for Mono(objc). For
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</I>><i> example, have a look at our upcoming support for AOP:
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</I>><i> <A HREF="http://blogs.remobjects.com/blogs/mh/2009/02/06/p253">http://blogs.remobjects.com/blogs/mh/2009/02/06/p253</A>
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</I>><i> (shows on an example that's very relevant to Monobjc, too ;)
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I'll be busy with other stuff until May. If until then I hear two more good
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things about Prism, one of which related to Cocoa, I'll buy it! :-) Your
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example up there doesn't count for the two.
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If you guys add more support for Cocoa (Monobjc), that's exactly what I am
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looking for. And learning Delphi cannot be more unproductive than learning
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REALbasic. :)
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(I understand Delphi Prism just adds itself to an existing installation of
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Visual Studio Professional if found?)
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marc hoffman-4 wrote:
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><i>
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</I>>><i> I think we are getting somewhere.
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</I>>><i> I am looking for a way to write applications that are portable between
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</I>>><i> Windows and Mac OS X, ideally use Cocoa, and are garbage-collected.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> very doable, yes. one of the things i was thinking about just today
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</I>><i> was doing a nice sample that (aided by a variation of the Aspect i
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</I>><i> describe in the blog post above) would show an application that has a
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</I>><i> WPB MVVM and a Monobjc Cocoa frontend both based on the same
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</I>><i> modelview. (The aspect would publish the properties according to KVO
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</I>><i> when using Monobjc, and as bindable properties for WPF, when using
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</I>><i> that...
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I managed to write a program in C# that checks the platform it's running on
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and uses Cocoa on Mac OS X and Windows Forms on Windows. It was an
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interesting exercise but it's ultimately useless as the NIB file required
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the program to be in a Mac bundle anyway and it cannot be shipped that way
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on Windows.
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Hence two or three different binaries will be the way to go. (Is there a way
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to use #IFDEF to organise those different build settings in the source?)
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marc hoffman-4 wrote:
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</I>>><i> I am sure it will change. I think there is a positively huge market
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</I>>><i> for decent cross-platform applications.
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</I>><i> i believe so too, yes.
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There is more demand for Mac applications than ever, I think. And with .NET
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we are a good step closer to cross-platform code.
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marc hoffman-4 wrote:
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</I>>><i> I'd be content with a Visual Studio plug-in that supports Mono and
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</I>>><i> Monobjc. But I am willing to spend money and learn Delphi if this is
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</I>>><i> the best way for me to get what I want. I liked Turbo Pascal.
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</I>><i> inside VS, i dare say that is the best option, yes. Until we can ship
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</I>><i> our MD support...
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Do you know if this will be a separate product or something that can be used
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by existing Delphi Prism customers?
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View this message in context: <A HREF="http://www.nabble.com/Delphi-Prism-and-all-those-Cocoa-bridges-tp22180106p22188884.html">http://www.nabble.com/Delphi-Prism-and-all-those-Cocoa-bridges-tp22180106p22188884.html</A>
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Sent from the Mono - OSX mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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