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<H1>[mono-android] Free version: Emulator only? ... Bye bye</H1>
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<B>Daniele Salvatore Albano</B>
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TITLE="[mono-android] Free version: Emulator only? ... Bye bye">d.albano at gmail.com
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<I>Wed Dec 21 18:57:48 EST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Maybe that debugging and linking to native code use specific assembler
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arm instruction, but i think that only really few parts are coded in
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this way ... would be really hard to maintain otherwise (i think ^^)
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2011/12/22 Richard Wilburn <<A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monodroid">rhwilburn at gmail.com</A>>:
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><i> 1) I believe that there are mono parts that require the ARM instructions? (I
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</I>><i> saw something about this on stackoverflow)
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</I>><i> 2) You can setup an app that will auto install other apps I would think.
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</I>><i> This shouldnt be hugely hard. The community might have done or could do
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</I>><i> something like that.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> I think ultimately the android simulator somewhat hurts products like
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</I>><i> monodroid and even native android to a slight lesser extent, so the best
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</I>><i> strategy in my opinion is to bypass it. I don't own an android device yet (I
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</I>><i> like android so likely will), so its quite annoying to have to go out and
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</I>><i> buy one. Among many reasons, this is part of the reason I setup the
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</I>><i> Mono.MVVM project on github (<A HREF="https://github.com/rhwilburn/MVVM-for-Mono">https://github.com/rhwilburn/MVVM-for-Mono</A>), so
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</I>><i> that I could develop against the windows mobile simulator, then have minimal
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</I>><i> android specific code. Unfortunately its still a work in progress, but we
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</I>><i> have some basic bindings working in a proof of concept style fashion.
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</I>><i>
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</I>><i> -Richard.
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</I>><i> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Daniele Salvatore Albano
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</I>><i> <<A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monodroid">d.albano at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
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</I>>><i>
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</I>>><i> I think that support x86 isn't hard, because:
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</I>>><i> - technically ICS and android 2.3.7 and superior works fine on x86
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</I>>><i> - x86 emulator is in android sdk folder (tools/emulator-x86)
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</I>>><i>
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</I>>><i> More, android-x86 is an android distrubution, not officially
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</I>>><i> supported, to have android on x86 platform.
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</I>>><i>
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</I>>><i> The true big problem is: where is the x86 toolchain for android?
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</I>>><i>
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</I>>><i> Without the x86 toolchain for android you can't really compile mono
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</I>>><i> and other low level stuff for x86.
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</I>>><i> Tecnically, if mono doesn't use bionic libc but uclibc statically
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</I>>><i> compiled, a toolchain can be hand-compiled or can be compiled using,
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</I>>><i> for example, crosstools-ng.
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</I>>><i>
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</I>>><i> 2011/12/21 Richard Wilburn <<A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monodroid">rhwilburn at gmail.com</A>>:
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</I>>><i> > I think the compromise here could be to put x86 android on the road map
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</I>>><i> > if
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</I>>><i> > its possible? and put that ability into the trial.
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</I>>><i> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Tomas Finnøy <<A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monodroid">tjfinnoy at gmail.com</A>>
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</I>>><i> > wrote:
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</I>>><i> >>
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</I>>><i> >> I'm just posting here to say I have quit my Monodroid experimentation.
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</I>>><i> >>
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</I>>><i> >> This is solely due to the fact that you have restricted the use of the
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</I>>><i> >> free
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</I>>><i> >> version to only work on the emulators. A very poor choice, indeed.
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</I>>><i> >>
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</I>>><i> >> The emulator is incredibly slow, and is close to impossible to test
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</I>>><i> >> applications with if you want to use stuff as the gyro or gps.
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</I>>><i> >>
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</I>>><i> >> Why on earth did you not just add a timelimit or simply a splash
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</I>>><i> >> screen?!?
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</I>>><i> >> Why don't you want people to test your product well before opting to
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</I>>><i> >> buy?
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</I>>><i> >>
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</I>>><i> >> I guess I'll go the free java route instead.
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</I>>><i> >>
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</I>>><i> >> Thanks,
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</I>>><i> >> Hope it works out for you anyway.
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</I>>><i> >>
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</I>>><i> >> --
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</I>>><i> >> <A HREF="http://mono-for-android.1047100.n5.nabble.com/Free-version-Emulator-only-Bye-bye-tp5091443p5091443.html">http://mono-for-android.1047100.n5.nabble.com/Free-version-Emulator-only-Bye-bye-tp5091443p5091443.html</A>
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</I>>><i> >> Sent from the Mono for Android mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Daniele Salvatore Albano
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