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From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999
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From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:06:55 GMT
Organization: TMR Associates, Schenectady NY
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README
In article <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>,
Roland Mainz <roland.mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> wrote:
just a placeholder for now.
| I don't know whether this is implemented or not...
|
| Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ?
I saw this subject and thought someone was asking for the same thing I
want, a way to get the system alias file used under UNIX. All I need is
a way to disable the incorrect address "completion" feature completely,
if that's possible.
When I send a mail about a machine problem, I want to send to admins and
get the alias which is the primary and secondary admin people for this
particular system. What I get is completion to admins@tmr.com, which is
every system administrator in the whole company. Okay, it's a small
company, but still...
I shouldn't have to remember to type admins@localhost (generates a DNS
lookup, too) to prevent this, on a UNIX system aliases are a part of
every other mailer, and I suggest that the default should be to check
aliases before adding the domain.
Just my pet peeve at the moment. I normally run a text only reader,
since I don't want my mail to animate, follow links, sing or install a
virus. I'm just not a trusting person, I guess.
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
The Internet is not the fountain of youth, but some days it feels like
the fountain of immaturity.
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From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 20:32:49 +0200
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
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Hi !
----
Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de wrote:
I don't know whether this is implemented or not...
Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ?
----
alecf wrote:
Bye,
Roland
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From: Alec Flett <alecf@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:12:50 -0700
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
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Roland Mainz wrote:
> Hi !
>
> ----
>
> I don't know whether this is implemented or not...
>
> Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ?
@ -124,110 +19,6 @@ Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this...
quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people
would be very pleased...
Alec
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From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 01:29:29 +0200
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
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Hi !
----
Alec Flett wrote:
> > I don't know whether this is implemented or not...
> >
> > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ?
> >
>
> Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this....but I'm
> quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people
> would be very pleased...
Question(s):
- What must/should be implemented to get this working (maybe a list of parts which must
be implemented) ?
Our current way is to use a POP3 server for Mozilla. The idea would be to strip-down
the pop3-server code, strip-down the Mozilla5-pop3-client code and connect both code
pieces at their ends. Sound simple (in theory), does it (in real world) ?
- Does Mozilla 4.x implement local Unix mail ?
- Does Solaris 2.7 implement a genereric mail access support API for this ?
----
Bye,
Roland
--
__ . . __
(o.\ \/ /.o) Roland Mainz C programmer
\__\/\/__/ Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de MPEG specialist
/O /==\ O\ gisburn@w-specht.rhein-ruhr.de Sun&&Amiga programmer
(;O/ \/ \O;) TEL +49 (0) 2426901568 FAX +49 (0) 2426901569
From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999
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From: Alec Flett <alecf@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:46:25 -0700
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
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Roland Mainz wrote:
> Hi !
>
> ----
>
> Alec Flett wrote:
>
> > > I don't know whether this is implemented or not...
> > >
> > > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ?
> > >
> >
> > Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this....but I'm
> > quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people
> > would be very pleased...
>
> Question(s):
> - What must/should be implemented to get this working (maybe a list of parts which must
> be implemented) ?
> Our current way is to use a POP3 server for Mozilla. The idea would be to strip-down
> the pop3-server code, strip-down the Mozilla5-pop3-client code and connect both code
> pieces at their ends. Sound simple (in theory), does it (in real world) ?
(I'm going to start calling Unix Mail "movemail" because we've called it that in past versions
of the product)
@ -253,150 +44,8 @@ in...
Yes, but the code is VERY different than our current codebase, it's fairly simple, and wouldn't
really be worth the effort of bringing it over
>
> - Does Solaris 2.7 implement a genereric mail access support API for this ?
>
No, unfortunately not...and even if it did, there's no cross-Unix API so I wouldn't want us to
be tied to one particular unix.
Alec
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From: Akkana Peck <akkana@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:43:56 -0700
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
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> > > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ?
> Alec Flett wrote:
> > Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this....but I'm
> > quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people
> > would be very pleased...
Roland Mainz wrote:
> Question(s):
> - What must/should be implemented to get this working (maybe a list of parts which must
> be implemented) ?
> Our current way is to use a POP3 server for Mozilla. The idea would be to strip-down
> the pop3-server code, strip-down the Mozilla5-pop3-client code and connect both code
> pieces at their ends. Sound simple (in theory), does it (in real world) ?
> - Does Mozilla 4.x implement local Unix mail ?
> - Does Solaris 2.7 implement a genereric mail access support API for this ?
Seems like it should be easier than that. /var/mail/username (or
whatever) is just a Berkeley mail folder, which we already support.
Seems to me that if you did two things:
1. Make the inbox folder name, not just the directory it lives in
(mail.server.server1.directory) configurable, so you can say "the inbox
file is [file name]" instead of "the inbox file is [directory
name]/Inbox" the way it does now. (Alternately, I suppose users could
just symlink /var/mail/`whoami` to ~/mozillamail/Inbox or wherever ...)
2. Change the periodic mail download so that instead of polling the POP
or IMAP server, it just refreshes from the inbox folder. I haven't
looked into the biff code in 5.0 (if it's there yet) so I don't know
how configurable this is.
Is there something else here that's tricky? I never understood why we
had all that movemail stuff in 4.x when we already supported Berkeley
mail files.
...Akkana
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From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:56:11 +0200
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Hi !
----
Akkana Peck wrote:
> > > > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ?
>
> Seems like it should be easier than that. /var/mail/username (or
> whatever) is just a Berkeley mail folder, which we already support.
> Seems to me that if you did two things:
I filed Bugzilla (Mail/news) bug 7836 (feature request) to track this idea (and to get this
feature implemented in the mail/news-prefs dialog).
----
Bye,
Roland
--
__ . . __
(o.\ \/ /.o) Roland Mainz C programmer
\__\/\/__/ Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de MPEG specialist
/O /==\ O\ gisburn@w-specht.rhein-ruhr.de Sun&&Amiga programmer
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From: Alec Flett <alecf@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 18:06:42 -0700
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Akkana Peck wrote:
>
> Is there something else here that's tricky? I never understood why we
> had all that movemail stuff in 4.x when we already supported Berkeley
> mail files.
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Alec
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From: Seth Spitzer <sspitzer@netscape.com>
Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news
Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:54:41 -0700
Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User
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sspitzer wrote:
Alec,
@ -547,8 +158,3 @@ Think about it:
I'm adding adding this task to http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/jobs.html
right now.
-Seth
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