diff --git a/mailnews/movemail/README b/mailnews/movemail/README index 9e1d7211d92..cf21b57d1e6 100644 --- a/mailnews/movemail/README +++ b/mailnews/movemail/README @@ -1,120 +1,15 @@ -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!newsfeed.netscape.com!news.sgi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newscon02!prodigy.com!darkstar.prodigy.com!davidsen -From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:06:55 GMT -Organization: TMR Associates, Schenectady NY -Lines: 32 -Message-ID: <7k975v$iao$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> -NNTP-Posting-Host: darkstar.prodigy.com -X-Trace: newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com 929570815 18776 199.4.137.118 (16 Jun 1999 22:06:55 GMT) -X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net -NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jun 1999 22:06:55 GMT -Originator: davidsen@darkstar.prodigy.com -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 +README -In article <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de>, -Roland Mainz wrote: +just a placeholder for now. -| I don't know whether this is implemented or not... -| -| Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ? - -I saw this subject and thought someone was asking for the same thing I -want, a way to get the system alias file used under UNIX. All I need is -a way to disable the incorrect address "completion" feature completely, -if that's possible. - -When I send a mail about a machine problem, I want to send to admins and -get the alias which is the primary and secondary admin people for this -particular system. What I get is completion to admins@tmr.com, which is -every system administrator in the whole company. Okay, it's a small -company, but still... - -I shouldn't have to remember to type admins@localhost (generates a DNS -lookup, too) to prevent this, on a UNIX system aliases are a part of -every other mailer, and I suggest that the default should be to check -aliases before adding the domain. - -Just my pet peeve at the moment. I normally run a text only reader, -since I don't want my mail to animate, follow links, sing or install a -virus. I'm just not a trusting person, I guess. - --- -bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc - The Internet is not the fountain of youth, but some days it feels like -the fountain of immaturity. - -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Roland Mainz -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 20:32:49 +0200 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 23 -Message-ID: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> -NNTP-Posting-Host: castor.informatik.med.uni-giessen.de -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) -X-Accept-Language: en -X-Mozilla-Status: 8000 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 - - -Hi ! - ----- +Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de wrote: I don't know whether this is implemented or not... Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ? ----- +alecf wrote: -Bye, -Roland - --- - __ . . __ - (o.\ \/ /.o) Roland Mainz C programmer - \__\/\/__/ Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de MPEG specialist - /O /==\ O\ gisburn@w-specht.rhein-ruhr.de Sun&&Amiga programmer - (;O/ \/ \O;) TEL +49 (0) 2426901568 FAX +49 (0) 2426901569 - - - -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Alec Flett -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:12:50 -0700 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 17 -Message-ID: <375DA372.15BA02CC@netscape.com> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> -NNTP-Posting-Host: h-208-12-40-101.netscape.com -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.3 i686) -X-Accept-Language: English, en -To: Roland Mainz -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 - -Roland Mainz wrote: - -> Hi ! -> -> ---- -> > I don't know whether this is implemented or not... > > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ? @@ -124,110 +19,6 @@ Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this... quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people would be very pleased... - Alec - -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Roland Mainz -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 01:29:29 +0200 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 39 -Message-ID: <375DA759.4687D7AE@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DA372.15BA02CC@netscape.com> -NNTP-Posting-Host: castor.informatik.med.uni-giessen.de -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) -X-Accept-Language: en -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 - - -Hi ! - ----- - -Alec Flett wrote: - -> > I don't know whether this is implemented or not... -> > -> > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ? -> > -> -> Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this....but I'm -> quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people -> would be very pleased... - -Question(s): -- What must/should be implemented to get this working (maybe a list of parts which must - be implemented) ? - Our current way is to use a POP3 server for Mozilla. The idea would be to strip-down - the pop3-server code, strip-down the Mozilla5-pop3-client code and connect both code - pieces at their ends. Sound simple (in theory), does it (in real world) ? -- Does Mozilla 4.x implement local Unix mail ? -- Does Solaris 2.7 implement a genereric mail access support API for this ? - ----- - -Bye, -Roland - --- - __ . . __ - (o.\ \/ /.o) Roland Mainz C programmer - \__\/\/__/ Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de MPEG specialist - /O /==\ O\ gisburn@w-specht.rhein-ruhr.de Sun&&Amiga programmer - (;O/ \/ \O;) TEL +49 (0) 2426901568 FAX +49 (0) 2426901569 - - - -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Alec Flett -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:46:25 -0700 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 60 -Message-ID: <375DB961.86D7518B@netscape.com> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DA372.15BA02CC@netscape.com> <375DA759.4687D7AE@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> -NNTP-Posting-Host: h-208-12-40-101.netscape.com -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.3 i686) -X-Accept-Language: English, en -To: Roland Mainz -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 - -Roland Mainz wrote: - -> Hi ! -> -> ---- -> -> Alec Flett wrote: -> -> > > I don't know whether this is implemented or not... -> > > -> > > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ? -> > > -> > -> > Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this....but I'm -> > quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people -> > would be very pleased... -> -> Question(s): -> - What must/should be implemented to get this working (maybe a list of parts which must -> be implemented) ? -> Our current way is to use a POP3 server for Mozilla. The idea would be to strip-down -> the pop3-server code, strip-down the Mozilla5-pop3-client code and connect both code -> pieces at their ends. Sound simple (in theory), does it (in real world) ? - (I'm going to start calling Unix Mail "movemail" because we've called it that in past versions of the product) @@ -253,150 +44,8 @@ in... Yes, but the code is VERY different than our current codebase, it's fairly simple, and wouldn't really be worth the effort of bringing it over -> -> - Does Solaris 2.7 implement a genereric mail access support API for this ? -> - -No, unfortunately not...and even if it did, there's no cross-Unix API so I wouldn't want us to -be tied to one particular unix. - - Alec - - - -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Akkana Peck -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:43:56 -0700 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 37 -Message-ID: <375DC6DC.815E9790@netscape.com> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DA372.15BA02CC@netscape.com> <375DA759.4687D7AE@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> -NNTP-Posting-Host: h-208-12-38-95.netscape.com -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.6 i686) -X-Accept-Language: en -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 - -> > > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ? - -> Alec Flett wrote: -> > Hmm... my gut is telling me that nobody from Netscape will be working on this....but I'm -> > quite sure that if someone does feel like adding this functionality, many unix mail people -> > would be very pleased... - -Roland Mainz wrote: -> Question(s): -> - What must/should be implemented to get this working (maybe a list of parts which must -> be implemented) ? -> Our current way is to use a POP3 server for Mozilla. The idea would be to strip-down -> the pop3-server code, strip-down the Mozilla5-pop3-client code and connect both code -> pieces at their ends. Sound simple (in theory), does it (in real world) ? -> - Does Mozilla 4.x implement local Unix mail ? -> - Does Solaris 2.7 implement a genereric mail access support API for this ? - -Seems like it should be easier than that. /var/mail/username (or -whatever) is just a Berkeley mail folder, which we already support. -Seems to me that if you did two things: - -1. Make the inbox folder name, not just the directory it lives in -(mail.server.server1.directory) configurable, so you can say "the inbox -file is [file name]" instead of "the inbox file is [directory -name]/Inbox" the way it does now. (Alternately, I suppose users could -just symlink /var/mail/`whoami` to ~/mozillamail/Inbox or wherever ...) - -2. Change the periodic mail download so that instead of polling the POP -or IMAP server, it just refreshes from the inbox folder. I haven't -looked into the biff code in 5.0 (if it's there yet) so I don't know -how configurable this is. - -Is there something else here that's tricky? I never understood why we -had all that movemail stuff in 4.x when we already supported Berkeley -mail files. - - ...Akkana -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Roland Mainz -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:56:11 +0200 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 30 -Message-ID: <375E808B.C3A02DE0@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DA372.15BA02CC@netscape.com> <375DA759.4687D7AE@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DC6DC.815E9790@netscape.com> -NNTP-Posting-Host: castor.informatik.med.uni-giessen.de -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) -X-Accept-Language: en -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 - - -Hi ! - ----- - Akkana Peck wrote: -> > > > Is it planned that Mozilla 5 implements support for local Unix mail (e.g. /var/mail/) ? -> -> Seems like it should be easier than that. /var/mail/username (or -> whatever) is just a Berkeley mail folder, which we already support. -> Seems to me that if you did two things: - -I filed Bugzilla (Mail/news) bug 7836 (feature request) to track this idea (and to get this -feature implemented in the mail/news-prefs dialog). - ----- - -Bye, -Roland - --- - __ . . __ - (o.\ \/ /.o) Roland Mainz C programmer - \__\/\/__/ Roland.Mainz@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de MPEG specialist - /O /==\ O\ gisburn@w-specht.rhein-ruhr.de Sun&&Amiga programmer - (;O/ \/ \O;) TEL +49 (0) 2426901568 FAX +49 (0) 2426901569 - - - -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Alec Flett -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 18:06:42 -0700 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 63 -Message-ID: <375F0FA2.EF7EC89D@netscape.com> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DA372.15BA02CC@netscape.com> <375DA759.4687D7AE@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DC6DC.815E9790@netscape.com> -NNTP-Posting-Host: h-208-12-40-101.netscape.com -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: multipart/mixed; - boundary="------------63474AC20714B91F1D656D9C" -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.3 i686) -X-Accept-Language: English, en -To: Akkana Peck -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 - -This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------63474AC20714B91F1D656D9C -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -Akkana Peck wrote: - -> > Is there something else here that's tricky? I never understood why we > had all that movemail stuff in 4.x when we already supported Berkeley > mail files. @@ -431,45 +80,7 @@ minimal gain in capability. Alec ---------------63474AC20714B91F1D656D9C -Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; - name="alecf.vcf" -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -Content-Description: Card for Alec Flett -Content-Disposition: attachment; - filename="alecf.vcf" - -begin:vcard -n:Flett;Alec -x-mozilla-html:FALSE -org:Netscape Communications;Unix Mail and News Client -adr:;;;;;; -version:2.1 -email;internet:alecf@netscape.com -x-mozilla-cpt:;0 -fn:Alec Flett -end:vcard - ---------------63474AC20714B91F1D656D9C-- - -From - Thu Jun 17 00:59:57 1999 -Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail -From: Seth Spitzer -Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news -Subject: Re: Request for implementation: Support for Unix local mail -Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:54:41 -0700 -Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User -Lines: 81 -Message-ID: <3768A9C1.DD81537D@netscape.com> -References: <375D61D1.B3CD128F@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DA372.15BA02CC@netscape.com> <375DA759.4687D7AE@informatik.med.uni-giessen.de> <375DC6DC.815E9790@netscape.com> <375F0FA2.EF7EC89D@netscape.com> -NNTP-Posting-Host: h-205-217-240-69.netscape.com -Mime-Version: 1.0 -Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i686) -X-Accept-Language: en -X-Mozilla-Status: 8010 -X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 +sspitzer wrote: Alec, @@ -547,8 +158,3 @@ Think about it: I'm adding adding this task to http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/jobs.html right now. - --Seth --- -Seth Spitzer -http://people.netscape.com/sspitzer about:sspitzer